Buff Item Clean Up

[Yekzunno]

Several times Beyond players have discussed the fact that Beyond has too many buffs to acquire/use. With recent discussions in Discord the time has come to put it up for a poll. Current buffs up for debate are Legendary instance drop buffs ie: LSD adrenaline rush and lucky strike, Avatar instance drop buffs, World Boss buffs, Luck Medic buff, and finally consolidating the Mos Eisley Cantina Buffs down to 1 buff to buy/apply instead of 4. Damage, Tank, Healer, Misc.
More buffs may be recognized later if you have ideas please post in response below.

Option 1: We remove these from the game as they have caused unnecessary power creep and buffs to apply. Do not remove Eisley buffs but we consolidate them
Option 2: We make these buff items locked to instance only, to help Balance PvP power levels. And Consolidate Mos Eisley Cantina Buff Items
Option 3: Don't make any changes.

 

[JaySanti]

Also down for a mixture of the two. The instance foods can just go. Serve no real purpose because stat pad, but it makes everyone have more health and luck. Luck contributes to the strikethrough problem and health makes TTK in pvp annoying.

Outright remove luck med buff. Silly that a doctor makes someone more lucky somehow, and again, contributes to strikethrough problem.

Cantina foods could honestly stay if co solidated. Could make them have more net-effectiveness to make up for lost power with any other buffs removed from the game but make them instance locked. (Inb4 speed run concerns: its 1 buff, 1 click in this scenario, not a big deal.)

 

[Ryakkin]

I like option 1

 

[Kaziem]

It's been so long I forgot the name of the now defunct pre-CU server I did the code for this on. But we had earnable GCW buffs that were designed specifically to level the playing field against the at the time broken doctor buffs. It worked quite well when pvping in GCW areas you would have comparable static HP/END/MIND to someone who was coming in with normal doctor buffs. We had a problem of people being trolly little farmers and using super high end doc buffs to pvp. There wasn't much of a point of using SB Doc buffs after this when a bit of GCW grinding would get you normal buffs that last through being tagged down even if they were 30% better and apply when you enter the area automatically.

That said - this is like my third day on this server or something like that. So I abstain. Just want to point out adding features as opposed to taking them away often hurts less for everyone.

 

[OMGABRIT]

honestly i think option 1 is best, it would also solve the issue of people complaining things are too easy, let them now do it without all the extra bonuses

 

[rasdro]

What considered unnecessary buffs? like from drops from mobs/quests?

 

[Cyco-OWNZ]

What considered unnecessary buffs? like from drops from mobs/quests?

That's the real question to address in my opinion as well.

 

[JaySanti]

That's the real question to address in my opinion as well.

Take your pick here. 44 buffs total, not including all GCWs and Officer buffs. North of 50 buffs total. Then factor in that groups spend time to get ISD and DA too for speed runs. Mind you, this is 4 rows of buffs and I have icons scaled down pretty small. Those with a concerning vision prescription probably see 7-8 rows. You can keep most of the power needed to complete hard modes and all that without looking at all this clutter.

 

[stoopadking]

Can we change the server logo to super sayin 3 goku so people take the hint?

 

[Erotica]

This wont fix a dam thing the some of the people bitching about to many buffs are the same ones who cant complete a legendary or do enough damage to save there life even with the buffs and want the content to be easier like OGs.

This isn't live or legends thought that was the whole idea was to stay away from that.

you may as well just remove every single new buff that was not on live then at this point. but that require rebalancing not only every piece new content but every class.

personally i dont think any changes are needed most these buffs are a joke to get.

however i'd like to see the eisley buffs built into one instead 4.

The instance buffs merged into one buff same for WB ones.

banners as well being Universal between factions like Bfs.

and GCW Buffs merged into one except LMS.

Medic buffs merge into one as well.

 

[Primo]

This gives me pre cu Jedi vibes. “I’m not willing to put in the work for certain buffs why can’t everyone get the same buffs”

 

[JaySanti]

This gives me pre cu Jedi vibes. “I’m not willing to put in the work for certain buffs why can’t everyone get the same buffs”

Just say you're unemployed

 

[Primo]

Just say you're unemployed

Very much employed, which is why I don’t have time to play. Only been on the server a few months, I don’t have half the items others have and I’m not crying about it

 

[JaySanti]

Very much employed, which is why I don’t have time to play. Only been on the server a few months, I don’t have half the items others have and I’m not crying about it

Don't think the issue is not having the items. Pretty shallow view of what is being discussed.
It's too many buffs and it overwhelms people from coming to the server. Why would someone drop their fully geared characters on another swg server just to have to get it all again + all the extra stuff just to contend?
I know you dont pvp much but it's also just a hassle to rebuff in between games cause you have 40+ buffs to account for and consumables to inventory. Its power creep and convenience.

 

[Primo]

Don't think the issue is not having the items. Pretty shallow view of what is being discussed.
It's too many buffs and it overwhelms people from coming to the server. Why would someone drop their fully geared characters on another swg server just to have to get it all again + all the extra stuff just to contend?
I know you dont pvp much but it's also just a hassle to rebuff in between games cause you have 40+ buffs to account for and consumables to inventory. Its power creep and convenience.

It doesn’t overwhelm people from coming just stop with that narrative. Maybe a couple people said that but be real. I PvP every night I’m online. It’s not bf’s bc I’m at work when those happen. Just say you’re overwhelmed and can’t keep up with your buffs instead of saying “it’s keeping players from playing”

 

[JaySanti]

It doesn’t overwhelm people from coming just stop with that narrative. Maybe a couple people said that but be real. I PvP every night I’m online. It’s not bf’s bc I’m at work when those happen. Just say you’re overwhelmed and can’t keep up with your buffs instead of saying “it’s keeping players from playing”

Well so far 2/3s of the server disagrees with you. Also, standing at FP and grinding FP tokens afk is not pvp.