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New Community Proposals 1-28-25

Vulture

New member
Greetings, Beyonders.

I have heard some proposed changes from the community, and wanted to get more Yes or No answers, to see how more members of the community feels about them. I will number the proposals. Please reply with the numbers you agree/disagree with.

Examples:
1.) Yes
2.) No, here's why
3.) Yes please I need this in my life asap
etc.

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1.) Alphabetize the resource names in the crate of free resource deeds to be able to find the one you want easier

2.) Alphabetize the list of macro names you've set to be able to find the one you want easier

3.) Add a red/blue banner/tapestry on the starting side walls of each battlefield base to easily tell which side is yours, because newer people to battlefields tend to not know where to return when you've been fighting and circling the base for awhile

4.) Remove the energy burst part of the kismato's jewelry set since it takes over 1 min to get to a 10 stack on energy burst, and doesn't increase energy burst's damage by much. Instead give it a group buff ability with the 7 piece kismato's, similar to forsake fear when used by a DSJ for stacking damage output, so praetorian can be like the defensive support buff set, and kismato's can be the offensive set and give an additional offensive group buff.

5.) Remove the Coffee Lake flashpoint as it has little to no line of sight for PvP fights

6.) Give the Shield Specialist 7 piece jewelry set the ability to parry ranged attacks. Currently, jedi is the meta at tanking in PvE because they can parry both ranged and melee attacks with a lightsaber. Shield Specialist Vanguard can only parry melee attacks, and not ranged, with their melee weapon. If implemented, you could choose whichever playstyle (Vanguard or Jedi) and tank just as efficiently as the other.

7.) Since Bounty Hunter already has the melee line in expertise, can get one of the highest armor values in the game, prescience/fumble/take cover/shields for defensive abilities, dread strike for damage reduction/heal cut, etc. give them a 4th jewelry set with more defensive stats for tanking that also gives an AoE taunt with it's 7 piece, and can parry ranged attacks with it, introducing a 3rd PvE tank route to the game.

8.) Make all personal combat droids level 90, and for traders a level 90 silver elite version. Currently, it is only with non-combat professions that it will be level 90. Using a combat droid as a combat profession, it's level 60. It wouldn't break the game or create a new meta, level 90 NPCs still don't hit that hard, and combat droids aren't be able to be called back immediately if it dies. To have a droid running around with you that can actually do something more than die in 2 seconds would be a fun little change, and may help the droid engineer economy.

9.) Move the flashpoint circle on the Vreni Island flashpoint to in the middle of the buildings/cantina area, for more line of sight in PvP fights as it is currently out in the middle of a grass area with no line of sight but the theater area at a decent distance away.

10.) Allow males to wear the nightsister armguard, nightsister pestilence leggings, nightsister scourge leggings, and nightsister carnage beret.

Thank you,
Vulture
Beyond Staff
 
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Erotica

Well-known member
Yes to all but #4.

Reason. We have way to much damage output already that now players can deal some retarded dmg in a split second. unless you make it so this change to VG DPS set does not stack with the Jedi's Forsaken fear if it does then heck no. this is my worry as there is already way to much damage output buffs and this is not including CoM/ISD Buff combo.

There already a good chunk of players who hate how much dmg output we can get as it just makes PVP unbalanced and makes any highend PVE Content just a joke. if it was made to not stack and they override each other then yeah a good change.
 

Goso

Member
Greetings, Beyonders.

I have heard some proposed changes from the community, and wanted to get more Yes or No answers, to see how more members of the community feels about them. I will number the proposals. Please reply with the numbers you agree/disagree with.

Examples:
1.) Yes
2.) No, here's why
3.) Yes please I need this in my life asap
etc.

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1.) Alphabetize the resource names in the crate of free resource deeds to be able to find the one you want easier

2.) Alphabetize the list of macro names you've set to be able to find the one you want easier

3.) Add a red/blue banner/tapestry on the starting side walls of each battlefield base to easily tell which side is yours, because newer people to battlefields tend to not know where to return when you've been fighting and circling the base for awhile

4.) Remove the energy burst part of the kismato's jewelry set since it takes over 1 min to get to a 10 stack on energy burst, and doesn't increase energy burst's damage by much. Instead give it a group buff ability with the 7 piece kismato's, similar to forsake fear when used by a DSJ for stacking damage output, so praetorian can be like the defensive support buff set, and kismato's can be the offensive set and give an additional offensive group buff.

5.) Remove the Coffee Lake flashpoint as it has little to no line of sight for PvP fights

6.) Give the Shield Specialist 7 piece jewelry set the ability to parry ranged attacks. Currently, jedi is the meta at tanking in PvE because they can parry both ranged and melee attacks with a lightsaber. Shield Specialist Vanguard can only parry melee attacks, and not ranged, with their melee weapon. If implemented, you could choose whichever playstyle (Vanguard or Jedi) and tank just as efficiently as the other.

7.) Since Bounty Hunter already has the melee line in expertise, can get one of the highest armor values in the game, prescience/fumble/take cover/shields for defensive abilities, dread strike for damage reduction/heal cut, etc. give them a 4th jewelry set with more defensive stats for tanking that also gives an AoE taunt with it's 7 piece, and can parry ranged attacks with it, introducing a 3rd PvE tank route to the game.

8.) Make all personal combat droids level 90, and for traders a level 90 silver elite version. Currently, it is only with non-combat professions that it will be level 90. Using a combat droid as a combat profession, it's level 60. It wouldn't break the game or create a new meta, level 90 NPCs still don't hit that hard, and combat droids aren't be able to be called back immediately if it dies. To have a droid running around with you that can actually do something more than die in 2 seconds would be a fun little change, and may help the droid engineer economy.

9.) Move the flashpoint circle on the Vreni Island flashpoint to in the middle of the buildings/cantina area, for more line of sight in PvP fights as it is currently out in the middle of a grass area with no line of sight but the theater area at a decent distance away.

10.) Allow males to wear the nightsister armguard, nightsister pestilence leggings, nightsister scourge leggings, and nightsister carnage beret.

Thank you,
Vulture
Beyond Staff
1-6 yes
7 yes IF all professions get an added 4th jewelry set
8-10 yes
 

Vulture

New member
Yes to all but #4.

Reason. We have way to much damage output already that now players can deal some retarded dmg in a split second. unless you make it so this change to VG DPS set does not stack with the Jedi's Forsaken fear if it does then heck no. this is my worry as there is already way to much damage output buffs and this is not including CoM/ISD Buff combo.

There already a good chunk of players who hate how much dmg output we can get as it just makes PVP unbalanced and makes any highend PVE Content just a joke. if it was made to not stack and they override each other then yeah a good change.
It would just be getting rid of the energy burst stack part of the kismato's set at the bottom as it doesn't increase energy burst's damage by a big noticeable amount at a 10 stack, and takes over a minute just to get to the 10 stack of energy burst, it's just quite underwhelming.

It would be a new usable ability given by the kismato's 7 piece that would be similar to the offensive stacking forsake fear buff that DSJ can give the group. Currently forsake fear as DSJ can give the group a stacking debuff starting at 1, going to 10 stacks, from 1% to 10% damage output and I believe crit chance or crit damage, unsure on that one. But maybe this one for kismato's would be like, stacking from 1% to 5% damage output for the group and 5% strikethrough chance, idk.

But yes it would be a separate ability/buff so it would stack with everything else out there, and I understand your concerns. But consider that a praetorian set vanguard was in the kismato vanguard's place, he would be giving damage reduction buffs/damage increase buffs over and over potentially with multiple resets to multiple people. So imo this just gives a little more group viability to the lesser used jewelry set.

Just something more meaningful from the kismato's set that would help the group and keep up it's support profession purpose while still being the damage jewelry set, to make it a viable option to go with instead of predominately praetorian jewelry sets in PvP/PvE because of it's chance to reset buffing up your group members. Currently kismato's is focused on abilities that just benefit yourself, so it's seen as the lesser option most of the time.
 
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Zotlodia

New member
1,2,3,10. Yes, nothing major just quality of life changes.
4. Maybe, would depend on how the change is.
5, 9. Yes, better locations for PvP to allow strategical warfare is always good.
6, 7. No, Vanguard already has other defenses, and an inherently high parry along with dodge etc, more offensive and defensive utility, better defensive cooldowns, this would render jedi useless. Same thing with BH as you mentioned, they have a higher armor value, different defensives etc, I could agree that BH could use a guardian strike like ability to generate hate.
8. Unsure, as this could slightly alter the use of being BM, not a bad change but feels like might be making BM less desirable as it requires spending points.
 

Val

New member
1.) Yes, QOL, Asap

2.) Yes, when get around to it. Every1's ADHD allows them to find it without too much stress.

3.) Yes

4.) Would want more details on this proposed buff, but currently no.

5.) Take it out of rotation, replace with another area.

6.) Yes

7.) Yes, if the goal is to allow other profs a shot at the being the meta or at least A tier of tanking content (In which case, id prefer to see VG up there and tested first). No if the thought is they're just an "off Tank". This also starts the chain reaction of giving a 4th 7pc to others.

8.) Neutral on this, kind of leaning towards no. If droids get reworked to be useful in combat for combat profs, I would prefer they be thrown into a BM revamp, and possibly go down the route of its own prof. Not just buffed to buff and not thrown into all the other prof's expertise to further take points away from the class.

9.) YES - and check the outdoor theater. Can run through the walls, fake LoS.

10.) Yes, its 2025, don't deny me on what pixels I can and cannot wear
 

Vanira

New member
wont #1 make it harder to find newly spawned resources? or is there another way people use besides sampling every planet that I don't know about? (Mainly thinking creature resources)
 

Burks

New member
Greetings, Beyonders.

I have heard some proposed changes from the community, and wanted to get more Yes or No answers, to see how more members of the community feels about them. I will number the proposals. Please reply with the numbers you agree/disagree with.

Examples:
1.) Yes
2.) No, here's why
3.) Yes please I need this in my life asap
etc.

-----------------------------------------------------------

1.) Alphabetize the resource names in the crate of free resource deeds to be able to find the one you want easier

2.) Alphabetize the list of macro names you've set to be able to find the one you want easier

3.) Add a red/blue banner/tapestry on the starting side walls of each battlefield base to easily tell which side is yours, because newer people to battlefields tend to not know where to return when you've been fighting and circling the base for awhile

4.) Remove the energy burst part of the kismato's jewelry set since it takes over 1 min to get to a 10 stack on energy burst, and doesn't increase energy burst's damage by much. Instead give it a group buff ability with the 7 piece kismato's, similar to forsake fear when used by a DSJ for stacking damage output, so praetorian can be like the defensive support buff set, and kismato's can be the offensive set and give an additional offensive group buff.

5.) Remove the Coffee Lake flashpoint as it has little to no line of sight for PvP fights

6.) Give the Shield Specialist 7 piece jewelry set the ability to parry ranged attacks. Currently, jedi is the meta at tanking in PvE because they can parry both ranged and melee attacks with a lightsaber. Shield Specialist Vanguard can only parry melee attacks, and not ranged, with their melee weapon. If implemented, you could choose whichever playstyle (Vanguard or Jedi) and tank just as efficiently as the other.

7.) Since Bounty Hunter already has the melee line in expertise, can get one of the highest armor values in the game, prescience/fumble/take cover/shields for defensive abilities, dread strike for damage reduction/heal cut, etc. give them a 4th jewelry set with more defensive stats for tanking that also gives an AoE taunt with it's 7 piece, and can parry ranged attacks with it, introducing a 3rd PvE tank route to the game.

8.) Make all personal combat droids level 90, and for traders a level 90 silver elite version. Currently, it is only with non-combat professions that it will be level 90. Using a combat droid as a combat profession, it's level 60. It wouldn't break the game or create a new meta, level 90 NPCs still don't hit that hard, and combat droids aren't be able to be called back immediately if it dies. To have a droid running around with you that can actually do something more than die in 2 seconds would be a fun little change, and may help the droid engineer economy.

9.) Move the flashpoint circle on the Vreni Island flashpoint to in the middle of the buildings/cantina area, for more line of sight in PvP fights as it is currently out in the middle of a grass area with no line of sight but the theater area at a decent distance away.

10.) Allow males to wear the nightsister armguard, nightsister pestilence leggings, nightsister scourge leggings, and nightsister carnage beret.

Thank you,
Vulture
Beyond Staff
Yes to all but #7 unless traders get another set. Something similar to the trader sets on legends.
 

Chinnbacca

New member
Yes to all except No.7
I would like to add in a change to grenadier set. Increase the range of grenades to 40 meters when equipped
 

sashalanda

New member
wont #1 make it harder to find newly spawned resources? or is there another way people use besides sampling every planet that I don't know about? (Mainly thinking creature resources)
I use survey droids myself lol but then I have a droid engineer.
 

jacksabib

New member
1.) Yes

2.) Hell yes

3.) Sure, why not. I don't see it as necessary but it will probably take 5 minutes of development time and I have no argument against so why not help new BF players get acquainted.

4.) I don't know enough about VG to have a coherent opinion

5.) Yeah this flashpoint sucks, remove it.

6.) I don't know enough about VG to have a coherent opinion, but having more tank options is probably a good thing.

7.) Yes. I think more tank options is probably a good thing and BH is a natural option for a ranged tank seeing it was clearly designed with that in mind supported by the reasons Vulture said. I don't think all other professions need a 4th jewelry set option to justify making another one for BH. One profession getting something isn't taking away from someone else. Adding role flexibility helps us all group more easily and makes content more accessible.

8.) No. I'd rather see them be worked into the BM system or get their own. I'm not against non combat professions getting a level 90 droid but I've played servers where droids were buffed enough to be relevant in combat and it just adds annoyance to the system because droids aren't very well designed in SWG. Either create a system that makes them act more like pets or leave it IMO.

9.) Yeah I think it makes sense

10.) Yes. It's current year guys come on.

Thank you,
Vulture
 

sam2h

New member
4) No, as proposed. Too much damage.

6) No, as vanguard already has sufficient defensive ability + defensive utility.

7) Yes and no, as It should still have a fairly quick ttk for group PvP. If you want to do something to make it a tank, have the 4th jewelry set add a cool down to duelist stance, block chance, or something that helps reactive heals become the tank aspect (this actually used to be the way on live for a bit when block chance was overpowered). Also, wary on the 4th jewerly set, but I will say one of the main things that makes this server attractive are new/updated playstyles.

8) No, and speaking as a droid engineer and PvPer on this - A fully capped SBD, Guardian, or CWW8 would have 16250 health, 12500 armor. When you call out a level 90 droid, it will get nerfed to 10037 health, and 7500 armor...and they already stick around for a bit unless its outside of a 1v1. We don't need the meta to shift to everyone calling out a droid in PvP and have it eat more AoE attacks and be a general nuisance. If you want to help droid engineer sales, do what Legends did a long time ago and offering 2 or 1 more combat cluster socket to already exisiting combat droids, offering increased variety. You could also still do the silver elite versions for traders through new schematics for the same droids.

I don't really care about the others, but this seems all quite reactionary and would like to see less of these posts. Maybe let the changes on this server continue to play out a bit before we do a faux senate program.
 

Redpaw70

New member
i would like to see enzymes be sellable , it kinda sux when grinding, and have no use for them but spend 10min deleting them from the inventory ,, or be able to turn them off like chronicle pieces,
and also you have the imperial guard as an avatar how about the nice red outfit ,, that was one of the reasons i made one in hopes of playing the red robed baddie ,,,,As for the rest you guys have a good handle on the game , i will support ya,,, except the robe thing and enzyme thing really like to see something happen there :)
 
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